Saturday, July 21, 2012

BIBLE | Whom shall I fear? Demons? Of whom shall I be afraid? People?

Psalm 27

Of David.

The Lord is my light and my salvation 
    whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the stronghold of my life—
   of whom shall I be afraid?

When the wicked advance against me
    to devour me,
it is my enemies and my foes
    who will stumble and fall. 
Though an army besiege me,
    my heart will not fear; 
though war break out against me,
    even then I will be confident.


One thing I ask from the Lord,
    this only do I seek:
that I may dwell in the house of the Lord
    all the days of my life, 
to gaze on the beauty of the Lord
    and to seek him in his temple.
For in the day of trouble 
    he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
he will hide me in the shelter of his sacred tent
    and set me high upon a rock.


Then my head will be exalted 
    above the enemies who surround me; 
at his sacred tent I will sacrifice with shouts of joy; 
    I will sing and make music to the Lord.


Hear my voice when I call, Lord;
    be merciful to me and answer me. 
My heart says of you, “Seek his face!”
    Your face, Lord, I will seek.
Do not hide your face from me,
    do not turn your servant away in anger; 
    you have been my helper. 
Do not reject me or forsake me,
    God my Savior. 
10 Though my father and mother forsake me,
    the Lord will receive me.
11 Teach me your way, Lord;
    lead me in a straight path 
    because of my oppressors. 
12 Do not turn me over to the desire of my foes,
    for false witnesses rise up against me,
    spouting malicious accusations.


13 I remain confident of this:
    I will see the goodness of the Lord 
    in the land of the living. 
14 Wait for the Lord;
    be strong and take heart
    and wait for the Lord.



House manager issues three-day lockout for filing police report

Although the issues raised by house manager, Lee Ayers, today for having issued a three-day lockout were addressed and settled yesterday, having filed a police report against Alberto Gomez for theft since then were all the occasion he needed to trot them out again, and justify throwing me into the streets for three days, with no food, money, or shelter.
Alberto Gomez, reaching into my personal set of drawers, where items were taken
Already, the house is locked to everyone on Mondays through Fridays, from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., forcing residents into the streets in 90° or higher weather for nearly 8 hours a day to fend for themselves.

Since there were no additional issues between the time the house manager and I had spoken yesterday, I had no indication that reporting a crime to the police would be cause to re-raise any prior issues. Logic would also prevent that assumption.

However, given the long-term and suspect relationship between the two (consider last weekend's "Anger Management Ritual"), I am assuming that this is, in fact, nothing more than retaliation for having filed a criminal complaint against an associate. In an audio segment specially processed to cull from the background noise participants in a campaign of ongoing harassment, you can even hear Heaven's Gate Recovery Homes employee, "Jimmy," doing his part near the tag-end of the recording (see also Mail theft continues at new home).

In the recording, Alberto Gomez and several women sing:

WOMAN #1: Your dick is very sad, little-dick, little-dick fag!
ALL: [singing] He's a little-dick fag, with his little dickie; and, when he's in the pen, they'll kill him with a stick-y.
WOMAN #1: Hi, faggot!
WOMAN #2: He's fag! He's fag! [sic]
Me: Hey, what's up?
Man: Where were you yesterday?
Me: At the house.
Man: Okay. 
WOMAN #1: Faggot! He's a little faggot. Fag! Pedophile, kill!
A combination of the video of the thief entering my dresser after having looked nervously around the room and the above song, which was just part of two full days of harassment like this by him and others, was not enough to raise concerns with San Jose Police Department.

When I tried to file a report, they initially refused to make an arrest, stating that these were "house issues," and not a police matter; however, I filed a report, anyway, and plan to contact the California Department of Correction Parole Authority on Monday to further raise the issue.

When I told Long about it, he seemed angry about me calling the cops, too. Here's the relevant portion of the text messages between us:

Long Cao:
I think you like police they dont help u with small case forget about them

Me:
I need a place to stay.

Long Cao:
call police help u because u like them

Long Cao:
Call the police help u

Me:
Thanks.

Long Cao:
Any place u stay u alway called police they dont help u

Long Cao:
U mess up ur life take urself

Me:
All I did was report a crime.

Update:
As it turned out—as it has always turned out—God isn't behind the "program of recalcitrance to the lord god Tuzzo," whatever the hell that crap is, and decided a full belly, good food, a roof over my head, and plenty of company were more appropriate for the occasion.

Hence, my overnight stay at The Watergarden, courtesy of those not "Tuzzo-y enough," but, rather, goodly enough, to do good when they know they ought to do good, lest they sin. [James 4:17]
NOTE | What's all that ridiculous crap you wrote in quotes, you ask? Let's just say it's a slight at those who think so highly of themselves, that they invent their own language, they're just so damn good in their own minds. Those kind of people.

Job interviewer from Hell: trouble at Heaven's Gate

The methods demons use to preclude you from finding work range from the extravagant to the simple (see also Demons block money-saving, job-searching efforts).

At one end of the spectrum: While trying to find a job, the demons showed me how they can redirect phone calls to their people, who are trained to pretend to be companies that are hiring, and therefore keep jobs out of reach by arranging fake interviews.

At the other: They also showed me how they can simply steal my car keys right before a job interview to keep my from making it.

On the way to this particular fake interview, they showed me how they can mess up a GPS navigation system to keep you from finding the location of a job interview (they do this routinely now); I also kept getting phone calls along the way, where the interviewer--or someone--gave me a new address, just like what happened to my mom that same December (in 2006), when she got a mysterious call on our way to her hotel that redirected her to a different hotel than the one she had reservations at.

Then, they showed me that they were connected to plenty of people who could pretend to be interviewing for a job but were really there to waste my time, as was the case with this guy.

To prove that he was connected to the demons, he eluded to my eventual death by gunshot at the SLE, "Heaven's Gate," which is where I would reside almost five years later—and, which he mistakenly called, "Gate of Heaven," and where I would be threatened with death by gunshot, as I was just last night.



Interview from Hell
Bush
Uh, no.
Wong
Okay. So, I... So, like I said, they...they actually are, um, uh, [a] company—major company—that does, basically, produce, um, hormone, uh, Homeland Security Devices. And, um, [it's] a major company, uh—growing—doing pretty well on the market right now. [inaudible] Obviously, they're looking for a similar technical writer. Um, I'll have a full description for you. They're...they're kind of lagging a little bit on...on sending me that over; but, you know, I could...I could just shoot...shoot...shoot you, uh, $40 to, uh, my [unintelligible] homies.
Bush
Yeah, don't shoot me.
Wong
Okay, I won't shoot you; I won't shoot you. [chuckles] I'll shoot it over to you. [chuckles] Okay, so, what...what are you currently up to right now, uh, James?
Bush
Well, right now, I am, um, looking for [a] technical writing position.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
I, um, had been working with someone down in LA on a software engineering project...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...[I'm] kind of, um, doing my own thing these days—taken some time off; and, um, I'm ready to get back with it. It has been awhile, so...
Wong
Okay, so, your last position, uh, was that over at, Eye [vocal prosody or phrase-tagging indicator?] ...Eyenovation?
Bush
Well, it wasn't technically a position. It was more, um...it's, uh, uh, a guy who, um...I guess he was in a company, where I am...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
He just needed a developer.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
I needed to learn [Objective-C], [so], [w]e became friends. I needed to learn a new software language. I wanted to learn how to develop applications for the Mac.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
And, um...so, I helped him out...
Wong
For sure.
Bush
...in that respect. Um...
Wong
Okay. How long, um, did that project take? When I looked it up on the grid, it said, "through 95 to 96."
Bush
Yeah, actually, it took a really long time.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
Um, just due to personal circumstances—sometimes he was in a hurry for it; sometimes he wasn't.
Wong
I see what you're saying. 
Bush
So, I kind of felt at leisure to—not that I really in a leisure time—but, you know what I mean. [chuckles]
Wong
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bush
So...
Wong
Okay. Okay, and, that was... You said that was over in Los Angeles or...
Bush
Yeah, he said he's by LA. Um, I haven't actually been down there to visit him.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
He's at Calmbank, I think it's called. That's the drive...the avenue...drive...avenue for him... LaVerne!
Wong
LaVerne? Okay, so, you haven't actually... This was kind of like a telecommute thing?
Bush
Exactly. Exactly.
Wong
Okay. Um, and, looking before that, you were at Cloudmark.
Bush
I was at Cloudmark.
Wong
Okay. What...what kind of company is that?
Bush
They make, um, anti, um, spam, anti-phishing, uh, software...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...filtering software for large ISPs and, um...the desktop...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...Windows, primarily, um…[they] make a version for, like, UNIX, and things like that for people, who use that for web servers...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
I'm sending that resume to you now.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
So, we can [inaudible].
Wong
Okay. Excellent. Excellent. Um, and, your, uh...you actually did tech writing for them, as well? 
Bush
Yeah!
Wong
Okay, so...can you tell me how you came across that position, and, um...kind of like how...how do...how do they, um, had you, basically, take care of the project, as in a day-to-day, or was it cert—...certain hour of time that you worked or did they give you a time limit? How did it work? We're trying to get him to [unintelligible]
Bush
Well, it works like this: um, you know, get it done on-time...
Wong
Mm-hm...
Bush
...and, right.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
And, so, you know, you...you just, um...the way you do it...oh! I think at any company is, if you have impressions as to what your hours should be or the time you should spend on a particular project...
Wong
Make sure it's done.
Bush
...or if you need a fluctuating, you know, some...you know, a different schedule than one that they may have, uh, suggested before, you just ask.
Wong
I see what you're saying.
Bush
Okay.
Wong
So, basically, you finish up a project on [radio station ID] and then took off [inaudible].
Bush
Right.
Wong
Okay. Um, what was your...oh! How did you land that position? Or, how did it come about?
Bush
A recruiter called me.
Wong
A recruiter called [inaudible]?
Bush
Mm-hm. Mm-hm.
Wong
Okay. That's him. What's your annual salary over there? Over at Cloudmark? You remember, or...?
Bush
Yeah, it was a lot less than, um, DigitalPersona; it was, like, $73...$72...$73[,000] a year.
Wong
$73[,000] per year. Okay. Awesome! And, was there, like, a...it was strictly, uh, a clowny-face position or was it just...or did they just need, you know, somebody dumb, drawing their time [inaudible].
Bush
Um, I'm not sure what you mean.
Wong
So, you know, a lot of the positions I do recruit for—especially, in the tech writing industry...
Bush
Uh-huh...
Wong
...um, they usually need to update a manual, or, they need to have to...they need a tech writer to...to, basically, um, write-out some information on the...how to get there...basically, shitting on the market. Um, it takes...it'll take half a year...year...you know, four or five months. Uh, so, I'm kinda getting...so, I'm...I'm trying to find out who, uh...how...how is...was it...was it, like, a project-based position or does it just strictly...
Bush
[clears throat]
Wong
...for a certain period of time; or, was it just, you know, as...as soon as you finish, then [unintelligible].
Bush
You know, I don't really recall.
Wong
[laughs] Huh! I see. Okay! Okay! That's fine.
Bush
But, um, what is the position, uh...I mean, they look for a technical writer to write manuals for a hardware product?
Wong
It was actually for a software product.
Bush
Okay.
Wong
Um...
Bush
And, the software product--again--is what?
Wong
I don't actually have all the specs on it, which is why I want to go ahead and shoot over to you, um, the description to you later on.
Bush
What's the name of the, um, company?
Wong
Uh, Bay Systems.
Bush
[inaudible]
Wong
[inaudible] bar assistance. I see your a [inaudible] software developer at DigitalPersona.
Bush
Well, a technical writer—no—tech pubs manager; but, um, I had some software development...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...um, experience. So...
Wong
Okay. And, you're a web designer, as well?
Bush
[nods]
Wong
Okay. Tell me a little bit about that, that company...what...what's that company about?
Bush
They, uh, make, um, fingerprint-recognition (biometric), uh, hardware and software; so, they, uh, use that to secure desktop computers in the enterprise, home users—things like that.
Wong
Fucking tweaker. And, you were there from 2001 to Q94?
Bush
Uh, yeah.
Wong
Was that...was that part of, um, wh...wh...was that from a recruiter, as well? Or, how did they land on you?
Bush
Um, Trish Borrmann, um, a friend of mine I made at Louth/Harris, uh, Broadcast Automation...
Wong
Okay...
Bush
...um, referred me there...
Wong
Okay...
Bush
...to that position. Unfortunately, she got laid off, like, in a couple of weeks or a couple of months after that. Um...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
That was unfortunate; but, uh, I stayed on with the company.
Wong
Okay; you stayed on for a little while. Uh, okay, back-and-forth. So, let's kind of, um, talk about your...your first position. How...I mean, how did you even get into to the, the tech writing arena? I mean, was it something that you've always wanted to do, or that you fell in[to]?
Bush
Well, um, I like the power of language.
Wong
[unintelligible]
Bush
I like to be able to write something on the Internet—I mean—from the angle of technical writing. You know, as an engineer works real hard with the product [unintelligible] the customer; but, they...they need to know how to use it. So, I kind of abridge.
Wong
Okay. So, you kind of, like, go in [inaudible]?
Bush
Yeah.
Wong
Now, what was your...what was your background education in? I mean, did you...how did you learn, I mean, how to, basically, write in this style [inaudible]?
Bush
Well, on the job, mainly. Um, I...first of all, I started writing very early. I've worked—I know, it's sounds so silly—working for the school newspaper.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
I, um, hated her guts; but, she was the best teacher in the world.
Wong
I see what you're saying.
Bush
But, Ms. Schenck...
Wong
[laughs]
Bush
...she was an awesome teacher. I mean, she really...you know, she was really serious about her writing; she grilled me to death, and I hated her for it; but, I thank her for it [unintelligible].
Wong
Mm-hm.
Bush
But, um, she, um, she kinda got me going there. I won an award—a journalism award.
Wong
Sure...
Bush
...and, just took...kept my writing up. I've just always been, um, a fast learner when it comes to language.
Wong
Okay. Okay. I see what you're saying.
Bush
And, so, once I got to California...sorry! Once I got to California, um, I...I joined with, um, ICG—you can see that now, down at the very end of the resume there.
Wong
Mm-hm...
Bush
And, um, you know, I kinda, you know, just studied everyone else. I mean, I've worked with a lot of pros. There are a lot of people better than set you up...
Wong
Right.
Bush
So, I tried to be like them as much as I could.
Wong
Okay. Okay. Excellent. Um, ever since then, you've been taking [inaudible] contractor's assignments and, um, there are different companies that [unintelligible] again, doing software tech writing, more or less in software development [unintelligible]. Now, how do you feel about...I mean, I remember you said that you did have some experience with some [unintelligible] companies that [unintelligible] systems? Or...? [inaudible] out there...
Bush
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! I just, uh...it's always been a passion of mine...
Wong
Passion for...?
Bush
[A] passion for, uh, law enforcement; not...not local police, so much as, uh, um, uh, like, when you said, "Homeland Security," [unintelligible].
Wong
[laughs] I got [unintelligible].
Bush
I did!
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
I was excited about that; so, that's kind of neat.
Wong
Okay. Now, how do you think, um, [inaudible] new industry, um, or, basically, a new company [inaudible] all new material... How do you think that will, um... How do you think they'll...you'll be to catch on? You know, really hit the ground running? Obviously, you're a quick learner. I mean, did you...do you think that's going to be a problem?
Bush
I think networking with people... I mean, you need to first draw...talk to everybody—and, everybody mean[s], like, you know, anyone in marketing or engineering or sales and will talk to you and...and let them describe to you how they sell the product or market it, and how they...why they engineer it the way they do, to kind of hear what the customers...or hear...hear what they're hearing from their customers...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
And, then, if permitted, I mean, uh... A lot of times, companies want to shield you from their customers because they want to control what information [is] going in and out and the contact with them... I mean, if I could talk to them, it would be wonderful.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
Um, that...that'd be something... Or...or, at least, their sales partners will probably have some feedback as to what customers are saying. And, just keep in touch that way and just try to understand the problem; so, that would be a little research—there would be some research there, as far as, uh, their R&D department, if they have it; and, say...
Wong
Insurance?
Bush
...you know, "What problem are you trying to solve here?"
Wong
Okay. Now, um, obviously, I've never been a tech writer... How does...how...how does...how does word-tracking and language come about? Is it something that you kind of naturally pick up? Or, I mean, is there some kind of guideline when you're writing for, say, like, uh, a technical manual or something like that? I mean, obviously, when I'm reading it, it's... I mean, the way I see it, a tech writer is someone that does connect, um, end-user and, uh, I guess, engineer, together. You know what I mean. Engineer...engineers don't always have the best communication skills, right? Um, obviously, their key skills are strong in a different area. Uh, how does...how does that...were there certain guidelines?
Bush
Of course.
Wong
Are there some... I guess, like, are there certain methods you use or is it straight...or is it sort of a freestyle [unintelligible]?
Bush
Well, you know, it goes on... You know, there's [unintelligible] on the police—I'm sorry! Let me start over.
Wong
Alright...
Bush
It, um, depends on the situation, of course. You know, the type of technical document you're writing; but, yes, there are standards that...technical publication standards. There are, um, uh, also writing style guidelines. I mean, you can pick the Chicago Manual of Style or Strunk & White; and, you can try to make sure you follow... I...I...I recommend the Chicago Manual of Style. Journalism writing is probably the best kind of writing in the world in that it is very succinct, direct [and] to-the-point. It only does if the accent is easy to read. And, so, that's why I feel like, uh, that's one style that I should approach—and, I do.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...or use. And, um, I also keep a copy of, uh, the, um, Microsoft's Technical Publication[s] Style Guide.
Wong
Mm-hm. Mm-hm. You kinda use that as...as a [inaudible]?
Bush
Only if I'm writing, uh, um, a document that...that is, uh, for a, uh, software product that runs on Windows.
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
And, then, Apple has their own, for example.
Wong
Okay. I see what you're saying. Okay.
Bush
That way, you describe things, um... You know how they, like, you know, the Mac look-and-feel...you try to make your developer...to make their application fit with...
Wong
Sure...
Bush
...the mold, so to speak, so that, when people use Macs, they'll use to use, they'll always kind of follow a certain pattern... You know, they're easy to figure out; so, they...you do the same thing with the technical documentation, in that you, um...you want it to read like Microsoft's documentation for it [to] make sense, so that it's, um...everything's cohesive.
Wong
I see what you're saying. Hm. Okay. Um, so when did you finally finish over at Eye...Eyenovation Multimedia? Um, what...what month in 2006?
Bush
Well, like I said, it wasn't a real position...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...but, um, it was...
Wong
[inaudible]
Bush
Yeah! And, um, you know, it's...it's on-going...
Wong
Okay...
Bush
I mean, the guy is not really... I'll be honest with you: the guy's not delivering on his end of things; um, but, he has, just like me, you know, personal issues that come up from time-to-time...
Wong
Sure.
Bush
We don't have firm commitments on some things...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
Um, I've done all of the work [laughs] the other things...deliverables on his end [that] haven't happened; and, uh, so, it's a little bit discouraging. So, I'm just gonna kind of wait and see what he does.
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
But...
Wong
And, you've been actively searching, um...
Bush
Oh, yes.
Wong
...for a tech pubs position?
Bush
Oh, yes.
Wong
Do you find it pretty tough right now in the market to...to, like, uh, to find these positions? Or...?
Bush
Well, yeah. I'm not...I mean, I obviously not hired...
Wong
Mm-hm...
Bush
...but, um...it seems to me that all these recruiters that I keep getting calls from, they all are trying to place me in the same position. [chuckles] And, I, uh, I know there are more technical writing positions out there. I am networking with people; I'm asking them what they do... When I meet people, I ask them what they do for a living.
Wong
Sure, sure.
Bush
Um, if it's a company I think I want to work for, I [inaudible].
Wong
[laughs] Okay.
Bush
Uh...but, uh, so far, it's just not...
Wong
It hasn't really been prepping to much.
Bush
No! It's kind of a discouraging thing.
Wong
We'll see if we can change that a little bit. So, let's kind get some logistics out of the way. Um, obviously, you're looking for a technical writer position. Um, does it matter... I mean, does it matter what type of industry, or, um, obviously, you said that you were interested in Homeland Security. Is there anything you get into besides tech writing or...?
Bush
Software engineering would be really exciting. Uh, I would have to come in just as an entry-level programmer...
Wong
Sure.
Bush
...because, you know, I have do...I do my software programming on my own.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
And, um, I haven't really worked with a [sic] teams that develop software...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...engineering; so, then, I think that, um, all-media design is another one, marketing...marcom...
Wong
Sure. Sure.
Bush
...that can be writing and just designing ads, and, um, um...
Wong
Okay.
Bush
...collateral. Um...
Wong
Now, um, like I said, the way I gauge the salary of a tech writer, um, isn't you...isn't...isn't a normally a[n] annual salary. Um, the positions that I placed with before have always been in contact. Um, punch priest. So, obviously, there's an hour to be rude. Um, out of...give me a ballpark figure of...of what you'd be looking for...for a position...
Bush
[coughs]
Wong
...um, both temp-to-hire on the annual side and it was just like a short-term contract case.
Bush
So, here's what I find works the best: I mean, a company has in mind what they're going to pay you and they're not going to stray outside of that. They'll...there not...they'll never get the [unintelligible].
Wong
So, that's in our contract. Mm-hm...
Bush
So, if an it position...you know, does it fit? Or, is it interesting or whatever? Let's just see what they come back with.
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
I'm not gonna be real picky at this point; however, if it's a contract position, I'm looking for something a little bit long-term.
Wong
Okay. Okay. The sheep is crying. Now, when I say...when you say long-term, how...how long is...is the shortest...can I call you for that? Three months? Two months? One month? Five months?
Bush
Um, I think that the long-term is just a preference; but, we'll just go with a case-by-case; same thing with the salary.
Wong
Okay. Okay. Open the contract with your eye.
Bush
And, I prefer to telecommute. And, we'll look for any company, uh, in any state. [inaudible]
Wong
Now, um, telecommute is, um, preferred; but, you're not opposed to going after [inaudible]?
Bush
I'm not opposed to it, no.
Wong
Okay! Okay!
Bush
I'll take it on a case-by-case basis.
Wong
[unintelligible]
Bush
I appreciate you, uh, trying to refine it and everything; but...
Wong
Oh, no! Definitely! Definitely!
Bush
Yeah, it's just like...like, right now, I just want to get to work.
Wong
Okay! Okay! Okay! Fair enough. Um, and, what about, if you did have to commute on-site, um...how far would you want to drive? In this...in this area? Most of the companies I deal with are in Silicon Valley. Um, but, I mean, for this position and for positions down the line, um, I just want to be aware so that if I come across something that's a little bit too far, you know, [inaudible] bothering you with a call [inaudible].
Bush
Never...never worry about me bothering with a call.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
Bothering me with a call...sorry! Sorry!
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
Always call me; always call me.
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
3-7-7-5 North First Street. That's where RAE Systems is?
Wong
Yeah, it's pretty close by here, actually.
Bush
Yeah, that is close.
Wong
[inaudible]
Bush
Okay.
Wong
That'd...that'd be okay; but, what if...what if the position was in San Jose? [inaudible]
Bush
Yeah, definitely.
Wong
'K. [pause] Okay! So, um, [it's] pretty self-explanatory; what I'm going to do, at this point...I want to try to connect with my...my [unintelligible] systems. Um, I've been working with her for a little bit and...and kind of talking to her about, you know, what it is you've done, your situation, and, um, kinda getting more of, you know, an idea of what they're looking for because, um...you know, I want to get a head-start on the competition, basically. I don't...I don't know exactly the...uh, they're very details...specifics, or what exactly they're looking for in a candidate, um... What specific project that... I know she has a, uh, [unintelligible], she said she was going to be in contact with you [unintelligible] technical writing manager.
Bush
Okay.
Wong
So, once I get that information, um, I'm going to go ahead and share with you, as well.
Bush
I guess this is, uh...is this the technical writer position on a marketing team...
Wong
Um...
Bush
...posted on their web site?
Wong
You know what? They...they...they post...they do post a bunch of different positions on there. Um, so, we never know. Um, it's...it's...comes...it really comes down to [the] relationship with the...with the client. Um, they'll do postings, um, just to...just to attract, you know, um...
Bush
Candidates...
Wong
[unintelligible]
Bush
...basically.
Wong
But, um, realistically, what is viable and what is not, and what they're really hiring for, um, obviously, recruiters are going to do job-tracking. We actually placed, um, the [unintelligible] client out there. I'm looking at the requisition right now; so...which is why she...she...she's sort of working [unintelligible] fast, trying to, like, let us see what's going on with it. So...
Bush
Well, if it is this position...?
Wong
Sure. And, it might be.
Bush
...um, I mean, I'm looking for something that...what...what I do when I look at the req, is, uh...is that we look at, uh, the areas I might be weak in—I start with those and I think...
Wong
Sure. Sure. Sure.
Bush
"Hm, how can I bolster my...my... How can I market myself in those areas without sounding like I can't get the job done?"
Wong
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Bush
And, right now, I'm not seeing anything that I haven't done. I mean, I'm an Adobe Certified Expert in both these programs.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
Um, 'InDesign'—I love it.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
I use it all the time.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
HTML--I've hand-coded it for years.
Wong
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Bush
Um... [unintelligible]
Wong
[inaudible]
Bush
Yeah. Yeah.
Wong
Okay. Okay. Excellent. I saw that, and it was at it's most, um, simplest form of it's own. Um, so, I wanted to kinda get more of a feel and see, obviously, you know, this is probably a general description [unintelligible] that. So, let me see if I can get some more info. I mean, it could be just be this simple; I'm not sure. But, let me find that out, okay?
Bush
Okay.
Wong
Um, I'll have your resume; I'll probably share it with her. And, then, um, we'll talk more about, I mean, the pay range and everything like that and, then, um...
Bush
And, just see what she comes up with.
Wong
Yeah, see what she comes up with. Now, what...you know, I kinda want, uh, a basepoint—sort of like an ending point [unintelligible] of what I could work with. Uh, she said, um, you know, 'this amount.' I said, "Well, he's looking for this amount." How...how...how far down can I...can I say...you know, I...I...everyone needs some sort of a...a...a baseball [inaudible].
Bush
Well, you need...
Wong
...like a wide-range [inaudible]
Bush
[coughs] You...you...you need to make sure that you take care of yourself first.
Wong
Okay.
Bush
That, if you have, um, a set amount that you need to make for this...this whole situation...this whole project...you know, this whole, um, the con—...the contract to be, uh, you know, profitable for you, then you need to know where that low point is for you, right?
Wong
Definitely. Definitely.
Bush
I mean, if she's says $20 an hour and you need $30 to make this worth your while... Or, if she says, "$20, and that's all I'm going give to you," you know, and, he gets $10 [chuckles] ...whatever! You know, obviously, you're gonna have to do work from your end; so, take...take care of yourself first.
Wong
Okay. Okay.
Bush
And, if you think that this, you know...when you talk to her, and feel her out, and [if] you think you can go higher than what you need, then all the better for you.
Wong
Okay. Okay. Definitely. And, you know what? Um...
Bush
What is the hourly rate that you employ technical writers at right now—the average?
Wong
Okay. Average? I would say, um, [it] depends on the industry; but, anywhere from $20 to $40 on hourly salary. Um, obviously, it depends on the industry... The last...the last position—to be quite honest with you—we placed a technical writer out at a, um, funeral home. And, it was sort of an interesting situation because they need someone to do technical manuals for their financial counselors, um, for people that are, basically, dealing with, um...the families who are dealing with the deceased. Um, so, so, you can...you can kinda tell that's a lot different than high-tech, [as] you can imagine. But, um, like I said, the project—it depends on the size of the company and the type of industry, because, um, what's important is, is that you have, um, experience in the high-tech industry. Um, you don't...you'd be a lot more marketable. Um, something like that [chuckles] would be...would be a whole lot different, um...so...
Bush
Something like what?
Wong
Um, like, like, uh, like, uh, a technical writer at...for a funeral home.
Bush
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Wong
Really?
Bush
Yeah.
Wong
Okay. What...what do you mean?
Bush
Well, when do you do...use a technical manual at a funeral home?
Wong
It's... Well, it's, um... Okay. There's... The one I placed the, uh, the tech writer for was, um...she actually used to work for a biotech firm. Okay? And, they needed someone to...to, basically, rewrite the whole, um, manual, um, for these guides, um, for, you know, uh, um... They basically had...this funeral home is...is, um...
Bush
What's it's name?
Wong
Uh, Gate of Heaven [I lived at Heaven's Gate SLE at the time], basically. Gate of Heaven is the name of the funeral home. And, they needed...they...they...they hire financial counselors, basically, to help people with, uh, like I said, the family of the deceased, and, there's, I guess, rules and, um, certain methods you can use, um, to sensitively deal with that type of position—that type of [unintelligible] grieving.
Bush
Um, what kind of product does, uh, this make? What does the funeral home make or...
Wong
[stutters] It's not really a product position. You know, we're sort of past the burial agreement.
Bush
Like a brochure?
Wong
It's not really a brochure; it...it's more...it was more of a[n] in-house manual.
Bush
Hm.
Wong
Because, it was outdated; and, obviously, I'm not an expert in the funeral industry. But, there are a lot of guidelines that employs...you need to follow when dealing with confidentiality. Um, um, you know, the finance of...basically, just...just on the...on how...how to handle, you know, certain situations. So, it...it was a sort of an unorthodox, um, type position; but, I mean, I'm just trying to, uh, you know, illustrate what they're trying to...what the pay rate was...benefits and [unintelligible].
Bush
Okay.
Wong
So... Okay!
Bush
The pay rate... What did...what did you say it was again?
Wong
$28 to $40... Uh...
Bush
$28 to $40? Or?
Wong
$28 to $40. That was the range that that company was willing to pay.
Bush
Okay, so...
Wong
So...
Bush
Okay.
Wong
Okay, so, like I said, let me...let me...let me get...let me get ahold of, um, my contact over there that works with them. Um, I have...have your resume. Um, I have all, um, your information in terms of what it is you're looking for, etc., etc., etc. So, let me see what I can do with this and, um, I'll definitely be in touch with you, too. Okay?
Bush
Thank you so much for your time, Jonathan.
Wong
Thank you! I really appreciate you coming in.
Bush
You bet!