[T]hat's when they're going to shut me down—so, I have to pay the $50,000. I'm not gonna...I'm not gonna get shut down! I'm not going to close my office. And then, once, once they audit, audit me or audit my insurance company, they see that there's $1,000 that's unpaid because a discount was given...This is your inside look at how the Voices Demons work with other people they try to pit me against, and what the psychological effects can look (or sound) like in normal conversation.
In a series of text messages sent to me in 2007 by my then-bail bondsman, Jake Peters, Jake’s Bail Bonds, Jake warns me about Long, saying that he will be my "demise," eluding to Jon Harrington's statement to Paul Casey, in which he says of the gang-stalkers' credo, i.e., “We prolong peoples’ inevitable demise...”:
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| Long "Kevin" Cao |
Following is a recording of a conversation in which Jake tries to explain how he "forgot" to reinstate my bail, the failure of which resulted in my incarceration. Several times throughout this conversation, he blurts out oddball statements, such as, "You're not going to get me shut down!"
This is a result of what I now know to be his exposure to Voices Demons, who constantly threaten and harangue people into compliance with their demands. Their demands on this occasion would have been for Jake to commit illegal acts to incarcerate me, which could have resulted in him losing his bail bonds business:
Following is a transcript of the conversation, with the interesting stuff in bold:
JAMES: So, what's going on?
JAKE: Okay. So, you're off the liability of the $50,000 [inaudible]. ...refiled the bail bond. Okay? Um, the first case on the bail for...
LONG: $50,000. And, then, you off $1,000...$40,000?
JAKE: So, here's the bail bond. It was posted on, um...
LONG: $50,000.
JAKE: ...posted on 12/20. That's the date.
LONG: [inaudible]
JAKE: That's hard to read. Bail bonds...bail bonds...okay. So, it's posted on 12/20...
LONG: Uh-huh...
JAKE: Uh, the bond...okay! So, this is current. [inaudible] liability.
LONG: Mm-hm. And, then, I pay off for you, uh, $40,000 here, right? And, you off, uh, you...you owe me discount $1,000...
JAKE: $4,000...
LONG: $4,000...
JAKE: So, the bail bond was $50,000.
LONG: Uh-huh...
JAKE: So, $50,000...
LONG: Yeah, $50,000.
JAKE: Okay...
LONG: ...and, then, you off $1,000...$1,000...?
JAKE: Hold on!
LONG: Mm-hm...
JAKE: It was a $50,000 bail bond...
LONG: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...and we gave you a 100% rate...
LONG: Mm-hm... $40,000...
JAKE: $40,000 was the premium rate with a $50,000 [unintelligible].
LONG: Uh-huh...
JAKE: $4,000 credit car pay...
LONG: Uh-huh...
JAKE: ...the law.
LONG: Uh-huh...
JAKE: That'll pay the premium.
LONG: Wow. November 20...
JAKE: ...$4,000...[unintelligible]... Let's see: there's a $1,000 unpaid premium [unintelligible]. You were given a credit of a $1,000 non-easement forfeiture...uh, non-easement forfeiture and/or summary judgment...oh! Gotcha! Okay, so you're given...you were given a credit...
LONG: Yeah, right.
JAKE: ...but, non-easement against forfeiture of summary judgment. Okay?
LONG: What? I pay...
JAKE: ...so...
LONG: $20,000...$24,000 left to pay, right?
JAKE: So...so here's where we bailed...here's where we posted bail bond...
LONG: Uh-huh...
JAKE: On February 1st, we got...on the first of February, The Superior Court of California, Santa Clara, August 6th invoice...where's that? Oh, that's the summary judgment date. So, they charged me $50,000, plus a $1,000 for your bail bond.
LONG: No, no! I mean, like...I explain for you: it's the...the first case, $4,000, right? I pay off $4,000 in credit card right now...
JAKE: You don't...you don't pay it off. You were given...you were given a credit of $1,000 against...
LONG: No, wait! Hang on!
JAKE: ...against the bail bonds. See this rate?
LONG: Hold on!
JAKE: $4,000?
LONG: The first case: $60,000, right? I bail him out and you off $1,000, right?
JAKE: Hold on...
LONG: $1,000...
JAKE: $50,000 bail bond...
LONG: Yeah...
JAKE: That's how much.
LONG: And, then...
JAKE: How much...how much does a $50,000 bail bond cost?
LONG: $5,000.
JAKE: $5,000.
LONG: And, you off $1,000. And, I pay $4,000 [unintelligible].
JAKE: $50,000. $4,000 [unintelligible].
LONG: I pay off already.
JAKE: A credit, right? Okay, so, $50,000 at a 2% rate is $4,000. [inaudible] pay it back.
LONG: Yeah, I paid that...this one with my credit card.
JAKE: That's step one.
LONG: And, then, he miss the court, right? And, he miss the court and $20,000.
JAKE: Okay...
LONG: And, then you said $1,000 off...
JAKE: See, I gave you...hold on! They gave you credit for non-easement of forfeiture and/or summary judgment. That means $1,000 forfeiture summary of judgment cost of $1,000 will be applied to you in the event that it's forfeited. I was willing to reinstate it and James can pay the $150, right? You have...
LONG: No, no! You didn't understand!
JAMES: Did you pay my fine of $237?
JAKE: I did! $235. Okay, so...
LONG: This one the first case!
JAKE: Well, actually, Long knows me. Out of...out of this whole thing, it's going to come down to Long owes me ###; but, pay it back, close the case out, be done with it, let's move on. Know what I mean?
JAMES: Okay.
JAKE: But, what happens is, when you buy a $50,000 bail bond, all bail in California is 10%. I can give you an 8% rate, which I did! But, with the attorney discount/referral/what-have-you, which, legally, it wasn't an attorney referral. [unintelligible] We're good. So, it's $4,000. We paid...we paid $150 to reinstate the bail bond...
JAMES: But, they threw it out...
JAKE: [inaudible] ...was, you got arrested...
JAMES: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...but, [unintelligible]...reinstated...
LONG: If one...and, then, you know, this one and, uh, and, then, miss the court and, and the bail $20,000, right? The bail $20,000 and you owe me. And, then, you off me $1,000 and then I pay for James (down payment, $1,000). And, then, [unintelligible] arrested right? And, then, I, I meet you in the courthouse and I pay $31,000 by credit card...
JAKE: I know...
LONG: And, then...
JAKE: It's right here!
JAMES: Back up...back up just a minute, guys! Because, I want to understand what happened that day. So, I paid you $150 to reinstate the bail bond, I'm on my way to court, I get picked up...
JAKE: You get arrested.
JAMES: Yeah! Well, they actually didn't arrest me. They didn't say, like...read me my rights or anything. They just picked me up...
JAKE: They picked you up because there was a warrant in the system.
JAMES: Right! So, they put me in jail and I said, "Well, I'm on my way to court. Here's my papers that [Jake] gave me." And, then, that didn't work for them, apparently. And, then, they make me miss a court date.
JAKE: It doesn't work that way.
JAMES: Okay.
JAKE: Because, because here's what happened. In this court...
JAMES: Yeah...
JAKE: ...your bondsman has to bring you in and get it reinstated.
JAMES: Oh!
JAKE: You can't just...you can't just, like...I mean, you can bring the letter in that I gave you...
JAMES: Yeah, why didn't you do that?
JAKE: Did you bring it in?
JAMES: How come...?
JAKE: Because I was gonna meet you down at the courtroom...
JAMES: Uh-huh...
JAKE: ...if the letter didn't work. I was gonna stand up and say, "Your Honor, I'm willing to reinstate the bail bond. I...I have reason to believe that he's going to make good on his bail bond."
JAMES: So, maybe we should have done that, uh, ahead of time.
JAKE: Yeah! But, the problem is, is you got arrested and you were detained prior to me meeting you...
JAMES: Detained—not arrested! Yeah, detained!
JAKE: ...detained prior to me doing that.
JAMES: Yeah.
JAKE: Law enforcement took it from you in order to reinstate your bond.
JAMES: Okay...
JAKE: That would have reinstated it only for the $150...
JAMES: Then, the judge—the next day—waived it.
JAKE: He exonerated your bond.
JAMES: Or, mandated it. Yeah...
JAKE: He exonerated your bond.
JAMES: I had to pay it again, right?
LONG: And, this one, I confused about it's $2,000...
JAKE: Hold on, hold on, hold on! We're not even there yet! We're not even there yet! You gotta follow along, okay? He exonerated it! I had to pay $50,000 to the court...to leave my $50,000 there. My insurance company—in order for me to work on getting my $50,000 back—I had to file a motion with my insurance company.
JAMES: Mm-hm...
JAKE: The cost of that is the difference of premium...
JAMES: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...it's the full amount of premium...
JAMES: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...the bail bond is $5,000, right? I only...the only time I make money is when they...the case closes out.
JAMES: Uh-huh.
JAKE: Okay? And, it's good. So, my insurance company charges me $5,000 for the $50,000 bail bond and they're going to charge 10 points; but, he's already...they take my $4,000 and then they charge him another $1,000. So, when he [unintelligible] on February 14th for a new bail bond, they reverted it back to...they reverted his transaction back to the unpaid amount of the premium. He's already paid $4,000. They reverted the transaction...the credit card transaction for new bail is reverted.
JAMES: Uh-huh.
JAKE: And, we paid the...and, you paid the $5,000 bail, okay? Not only that, but, this unpaid amount is paid...gets paid. Not only that, but, in order for me to get that $50,000 back—so he's not charged for it—I have to pay the bond cost on it.
JAMES: Uh-huh.
JAKE: [The] bond cost is...it's 2%. And, that's the...because that's the rate that's negotiated with the Department of Insurance, my insurance company and all the bankers—not only me, but every [inaudible] Banker's Insurance gets 2%. And, 2% of $50,000 is a $1,000. They charge me...for them—instead of charging me...so, then, they...they took your payment of $1,000, which I'm working on trying to get back...they took your payment and then they chargedyou, again, $1,000 "for the cost and liability of the $50,000..."
LONG: And, then, I concerned about...it's, it's...I met you in the courthouse, right? And, then, you charged me $1,000 for [unintelligible]...
JAKE: This is 867809. 867809.
LONG: But, I don't have receipt for this one. And,then, they automatic [inaudible].
JAKE: Yeah, they, they probably did a phone order on that one. Right here's the transaction number.
LONG: [inaudible] this one. How come they charge me $1,000?
JAKE: Okay. So, this...so, this...$1,000... Look! Look! This $1,000 right here...
LONG: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...867809 right here...
LONG: Yeah...
JAKE: ...paid for the difference of the $50,000 bail bond.
LONG: He said, he missed the court and you have to bail him out. You didn't do anything [on] this one.JAKE: I know!
LONG: You didn't...
JAKE: Because...okay. Because this $1,000 is...was gonna be applied to the new bail bond.LONG: But, you didn't bail him out for this time, you know?
JAKE: I know!
LONG: You didn't bail...
JAKE: I know! Because, when they took...when they took his file to court, instead of keeping it as $20,000 for bail, they included...they reverted it back to the original bail that they...that the judge exonerated.
JAMES: He remanded...he said, "remanded."[unintelligible]
JAKE: ...on the bond. He exonerated his bond—no longer holding you liable for $50,000—so I can get my money back because I have to front that money for you as to not charge you right away. I have to put up this money and the cost of that is $5,000, plus 2%. It's $6,000 total on a $50,000 bail bond. You paid $4,000...you put a $1,000 for a new bail bond...they took that because that pays for any unpaid balance [unintelligible]. [answers phone] Do you have court? What happened? Out of breath, or...? Okay, um, I'm gonna have to call you right back. I'm with a client; but, let's...that's good news. Um, can I call you back in, like, 15 or 20 minutes? Okay. Okay. Alright. I'll call you right back. Okay.
LONG: I concerned that, this one, and you told me and...
JAKE: This $1,000, I wanted to refund back to you because it wasn't going to be used...
LONG: Mm-hm... And, then, another $1,000...I don't know where this come from.
JAKE: That's because this...this amount is unpaid, the only...we gave you a discount...
LONG: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...and we don't get easement against forfeiture of summary judgment. Here's the forfeiture letter: "Notice of bail forfeiture sent to..."
LONG: Why we...why...?
JAKE: "...Banker's...Banker's Insurance and Jake's Bail Bonds, forfeiture of insurance in the amount of $8,607; so, I thought they put a [unintelligible]...Superior Court on February 1st...February 1st, the day you missed court, the forfeiture, notice of bail forfeiture, Banker's Insurance and Jake's Bail Bonds on this bond number, failed to go to court on 8/6/07—that's when they're going to shut me down—so, I have to pay the $50,000. I'm not gonna...I'm not gonna get shut down! I'm not going to close my office. And then, once, once they audit, audit me or audit my insurance company, they see that there's $1,000 that's unpaid because a discount was given...
LONG: Mm-hm...
JAKE: ...they're going to take any money for the new bail bond...that's why I was hoping to get you refunded; but, they saw that there was a $1,000 payment on your credit card. They took $2,000 to apply it toward[s] any unpaid amount. They charged me another $1,000 per the 2% rule; so, what? They charged you...the insurance company charged you a $1,000 with 2% so you don't have to go to civil court. So, you don't go to civil court for $50,000. And, then, the $150 that, that James gave me, I applied to the $235 because, on May 1st, they're saying I need to pay [unintelligible] "notice of process, bond exonerated, notice of cost assessment on or before May 1st. Notice of process assessment: $235 on or before..." Oh, 3/19—they made a mistake; but, nonetheless, thank God I paid the [inaudible]! [inaudible] identification [inaudible] ...it says 3/19; so...but, that was paid...so, the $150 [inaudible] wrote an $85 check (check number 1076), $235 paid, his bond was closed out. They made [a] credit to $235 because I paid it. They charged you a total of $6,235. That was paid to the court for $6,235; $85 of that goes to the client and I wrote it off because I just wanted to close it out and it got you a new bond. And, the new bond went for $20,000 [unintelligible] this one. This was a down payment on the $20,000 bail bond, which $1,000 was used for this current bail bond...uh, divide by 017687. 55507687. They took $1,000 and applied it tothat bail bond. This bail, actually, includes the $50,000. Once the judge exonerated the bail bond on the 14th—they exonerated the bail bond on the14th—not holding you or myself liable for the $50,000. The courts gave back my $50,000 and didn't hold me responsible for suing you because I asked totake you to civil court for $50,000. And, they..."notice of cost assessment: $235," which I got $150 from James that he paid me to reinstate the bailbond—because I was willing to do that. But, the problem...here's where the problem came in: is that you were arrested before we could help him out. Does that make sense?
LONG: [We paid] you $2,000 [and] you didn't do anything. You didn't bail him out for this time. And, for the second case, the police arrested [him]. I pay $50,000.
JAKE: No.
LONG: And, $4,000. You discount $4,000. I pay off.
JAKE: I know. I gave you credit on the new...
LONG: And, then, $2,000—I pay $2,000—and, $2,000 more. I owe you payment[s], monthly, $200 a month, right?
JAKE: Okay.
LONG: Mm-hm... And, then [inaudible]...
JAKE: I see...I see what you're saying. His $50,000...the first $50,000 bail bond, he gave $4,000 [inaudible]...
JAMES: Long's a math genius.
JAKE: He is?
JAMES: Yeah!
JAKE: He...they forfeited; so, the total cost [unintelligible] is 50...uh, $51,335—that's the total cost to you. You think that's...
LONG: The court case [is] $60,000 and, then, I bail him out. And, then, $4,000, right...
JAKE: Yeah, yeah! Right here! I showed you that!
LONG: Mm-hm...
JAKE: I just showed you that! Right here...it's this right here. $50,000 bail bond for $4,000. It's forfeited. So, the total cost that you owe is $51,235; but, what they did: because you only paid $4,000...
LONG: Because you said you discount $1,000.
JAKE: Hold on! We're going to go line-by-line! You paid $4,000. Um, that's 5...that's 5...
LONG: 1...2...
JAKE: That's 2... That's 4... That's, uh, 6... And, that's 4. So, you owe $46,235 because you paid $4,000. Cost assessment or the $1,000...or bond cost was $1,000—it says it right here—$1,000 bond cost.
LONG: No, no! I think I...
JAKE: So, $47,000—I'm doing it line-by-line for you. This is how I understand it and this is how I'm reading it—line-by-line! $150 was paid...minus $150...[unintelligible] 150...47... Um, $1,000 was paid. [unintelligible] ...that credit card receipt?
LONG: Yeah.
JAKE: Instead of [inaudible] bail bonds [inaudible]. They then charged you another $1,000 [on] the same day for the bond cost, which is this credit card number transaction right here (279772).
LONG: Why did that $1,000...because this time...
JAKE: It's a 2% rate. The bond cost on the...
LONG: 2% rate; but, and, then, he arrested again. But, I bail you out $4,000.
JAKE: In order for you to stay out of civil court, that's what the cost is. So, it's $45,000, and, then, um...
LONG: You almost charge me $8,000 in credit card already.
JAKE: I gave you a $50,000 credit...that's great. The math is wrong here. $47,000 becomes $3,000. The difference on here is a $1,000. $1,000 for the bond; so, that's $38,000. This one doesn't have any bearing on it. This one doesn't have any bearing on it. So, it's $48,000...085...$48,085.
JAMES: [unintelligible]
LONG: [inaudible]
JAKE: Okay...
LONG: $50,000. And, then, you off 10% [inaudible] $4,000 only.
JAKE: That's the rate.
LONG: Yeah...
JAKE: No, no, no! You don't pay $40,000. It's still a $50,000 bail bond.
LONG: I...$4,000...$4,000!
JAKE: It's still a $50,000 bail bond.
LONG: And, then, you off $1,000, right? And, then, I pay credit card, $4,000.
JAKE: Yeah. Yeah. You got it.
LONG: Yeah. I got it.
JAKE: You got it.
LONG: And, then, he miss court.
JAKE: He missed court...
LONG: Yeah...
JAKE: So...LONG: And, then, $20,000...
JAKE: So, you're charged the difference.
LONG: Yeah, the $20,000...
JAKE: $20,000...
JAMES: Are you guys capable of working this out [unintelligible] implicate—or, um, not implicate...
JAKE: Yeah, just...no! We're...we're capable...
LONG: [unintelligible] And, then, you told me...and, then, uh, um, you have to pay $1,000...$1,000, and, then, the court...in court, the police arrested him, right? And, then, I go to the court and pay $1,000.
